1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,270 [Music] 2 00:00:10,610 --> 00:00:08,720 good afternoon 3 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:10,620 my name is Kirikou newest I'm a 4 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:12,870 geologist I'm a microbial paleontologist 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:15,150 and my research focuses on achieving 6 00:00:19,099 --> 00:00:17,130 what I hope to be a more comprehensible 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:19,109 comprehension of the most ancient traces 8 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:21,210 of life on Earth their settings their 9 00:00:25,220 --> 00:00:22,529 environments and the applicability of 10 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:25,230 these findings to the potential 11 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:27,750 existence of a fossil biosphere on an 12 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:30,840 awakened Mars it's my opinion that we 13 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:33,360 already have an alien planet for study 14 00:00:38,299 --> 00:00:36,000 at our fingertips most ancient rocks on 15 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:38,309 this earth represent vestiges of a 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:40,110 planet shockingly different from that we 17 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:42,930 know at present far from a state of 18 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:45,809 relatively planetary clemency we have a 19 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:47,750 world where the skies were a dense 20 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:51,539 reducing haze the oceans were a mildly 21 00:01:00,020 --> 00:00:54,809 acidic saline solution the shorelines 22 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:00,030 were fantastically fans the volcanoes 23 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:02,840 and hydrothermal activity characterized 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:05,400 everything where oxygen its associated 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:08,010 metabolisms could not possibly exist now 26 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:09,450 from a philosophical point of view I 27 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:12,479 think this constitutes a good trial run 28 00:01:18,980 --> 00:01:15,600 of how we look for bio signatures not on 29 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:18,990 a world of our own understanding so I'm 30 00:01:22,190 --> 00:01:20,520 interested in making comparisons between 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:22,200 the Earth and Mars in their earliest 32 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:24,450 history both of these planets appear to 33 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:26,040 have supported limited habitable 34 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:28,710 conditions perhaps over relatively short 35 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:31,020 geological timescales both had liquid 36 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:34,200 water vestiges of volcanic hydrothermal 37 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:37,020 impact they will they were the victims 38 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:40,320 of incessant impacts it's our opinion 39 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:42,420 that the short habitable timescales 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:44,399 present on the ancient Mars and the 41 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:47,130 ancient earth mean that primitive chemo 42 00:01:50,690 --> 00:01:48,630 trophic metabolisms in a world 43 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:50,700 punctuated habitability are the most 44 00:01:55,069 --> 00:01:53,430 relevant analogues to study in terms of 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:01:55,079 a Martian biosphere that is why we find 46 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,450 ourselves in the early Archaean so I'll 47 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:03,360 try to go through these questions in 48 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:05,219 some sort of order what is it required 49 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:07,469 to draw a bio signature from the ancient 50 00:02:10,969 --> 00:02:09,209 geological record where do we draw 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:10,979 boundaries between fugitive and 52 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:12,490 definitive bio signatures 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:14,350 once we've got those boundaries how do 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:16,330 we test the hypotheses of biogenesis 55 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:18,970 that we create and what are the 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:20,860 implications there upon the search for 57 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:24,490 life elsewhere chapter one claims and 58 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:25,330 refutations 59 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:28,330 of unexpected by Odin isset II or my 60 00:02:31,470 --> 00:02:29,590 oldest fossils are older than your 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:31,480 fondest fossils and the complications 62 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:33,850 thereof so that's how the acronym goes 63 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:35,740 we have four places for studying the 64 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:37,420 most ancient traces of life on Earth 65 00:02:41,940 --> 00:02:39,400 a sewer and new agate oak which I will 66 00:02:43,590 --> 00:02:41,950 not talk about and the Bob and the 67 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:43,600 underbar Burton and the Pilbara which I 68 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:45,190 most certainly will talk about the 69 00:02:50,190 --> 00:02:48,760 latter to present us with our our best 70 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:50,200 preserved there admittedly still 71 00:02:54,020 --> 00:02:53,050 imperfect sedimentary sequences of the 72 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:54,030 early archaea 73 00:02:59,220 --> 00:02:56,530 in our quest to biosignatures we seek 74 00:03:01,080 --> 00:02:59,230 out original convincing morphological 75 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:01,090 traces of life such as these copper idol 76 00:03:05,550 --> 00:03:03,370 microorganisms from Kitty's captured we 77 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:05,560 reinterpret previous assertions of 78 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:06,880 biodiversity such as this 79 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:09,220 reinterpretation of the apex Journal 80 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:11,380 fossils we approach with new techniques 81 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:14,440 previously unrecognized biological 82 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:15,850 phenomena such as these microbial 83 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:18,310 structures from the apex chart we search 84 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:21,490 an ever more ancient rocks ever more 85 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:24,580 bizarre taphonomic windows and ever 86 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:27,870 further from home in Chapter two 87 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:30,850 principles of deep time recall the 88 00:03:35,610 --> 00:03:33,070 Archaean earth produces a unique 89 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:35,620 challenge for Austria lodgest s-- it's a 90 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:37,210 very different world view to be had here 91 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:39,910 the early ijen hypothesis that we can 92 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:43,870 find on the present day environments 93 00:03:48,330 --> 00:03:45,070 which are perfectly good for the 94 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:48,340 existence of life may not necessarily be 95 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:51,040 true for or even applicable to a distant 96 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,530 alien world this is because the 97 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:55,360 principle of uniformitarianism that the 98 00:03:59,640 --> 00:03:57,850 past is the key to the present is pushed 99 00:04:02,370 --> 00:03:59,650 woefully beyond its limits in the 100 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:02,380 Archaean punctuated habitability is not 101 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:04,180 a thing we know on earth today though 102 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:06,310 individual life may be patchy in its 103 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:08,170 habitability life is pretty ubiquitous 104 00:04:12,510 --> 00:04:10,270 and this leads to the fact that there 105 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:12,520 are uninhabited habitats on the ancient 106 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:14,350 earth now that's something that we do 107 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:16,870 not have on the modern day miss apply 108 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:19,840 either of these tenets of habitability 109 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:21,880 and you will find yourself in a world of 110 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:23,560 mistaken conclusions and wayward 111 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:25,760 assertions of Biogen isset ii 112 00:04:32,110 --> 00:04:30,170 exist on all spacial scales so in this 113 00:04:33,610 --> 00:04:32,120 microbe oriented planetary analog we 114 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:33,620 will be considering phylogenetically 115 00:04:37,750 --> 00:04:35,300 primitive there's our thermophilic kima 116 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:37,760 trophic organisms from such environments 117 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,070 as in which they demonstrate endurance 118 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:42,080 and recurrence over the geological 119 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:45,110 timescale sadly all analog environments 120 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:46,130 on the modern earth are somewhat 121 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:47,690 compromised thus it is prudent for us 122 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:49,040 also to consider those environments 123 00:04:55,390 --> 00:04:52,910 which depict chemo trophic ecosystem 124 00:04:56,770 --> 00:04:55,400 dominance that's the earlier Qian is it 125 00:04:59,980 --> 00:04:56,780 possible for us to make a comparison 126 00:05:02,470 --> 00:04:59,990 between post oxygenated world's 127 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:02,480 ecosystems I don't know 128 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:05,380 that question I won't answer chapter 3 129 00:05:10,570 --> 00:05:08,110 drawing the defining line of biogenesis 130 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:10,580 criteria I study the record of 131 00:05:14,110 --> 00:05:12,110 carbonaceous matter in ancient sediments 132 00:05:16,090 --> 00:05:14,120 we know that much of this carbon comes 133 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:16,100 from the proven biological reservoir but 134 00:05:21,010 --> 00:05:18,050 an equally great quantity can stem from 135 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:21,020 terrestrial abiotic carbon factories the 136 00:05:25,090 --> 00:05:22,730 youthful Earth was also under constant 137 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:25,100 bombardment from perhaps up to 1,000 138 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:27,080 times present levels of meteoritic 139 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:29,450 impact and 7% of these impactors 140 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:31,400 carbonaceous chondrites and micro 141 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:33,470 meteorites delivered buffed quantities 142 00:05:37,540 --> 00:05:35,720 of third sort of enigmatic carbon that I 143 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:37,550 will comment no further on 144 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:41,450 can I go forward yes I don't Ford too 145 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:43,340 much that slide apparently didn't work 146 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:47,290 okay so I will say that therefore in any 147 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:49,730 aggregation of carbonaceous matter on 148 00:05:53,530 --> 00:05:51,290 the ancient earth you are potentially 149 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:53,540 looking at a confusing a large of the 150 00:05:59,770 --> 00:05:57,680 three how to draw a bio signature out of 151 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,780 this some one of the recent apps icon 152 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:01,280 making and I do wish I remember who 153 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:03,890 stated that bio signature acceptance is 154 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:06,710 the summation of evidence and community 155 00:06:11,470 --> 00:06:09,290 consensus the evidence we can we can 156 00:06:16,090 --> 00:06:11,480 provide the community set consensus 157 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:16,100 comes from biodiversity criteria we have 158 00:06:19,570 --> 00:06:17,650 criteria for micro fossil stromatolites 159 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:19,580 microbial induced sedimentary structures 160 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,840 microbial segments trace fossils an 161 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:23,120 organic carbon itself I think if you 162 00:06:27,850 --> 00:06:24,880 look up those references you will find 163 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:27,860 157 criteria that you can apply to your 164 00:06:34,189 --> 00:06:29,900 structures and yet still the overlap 165 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:34,199 between biology and a biology is vast 166 00:06:37,850 --> 00:06:35,370 the next thing we have to prove that 167 00:06:39,589 --> 00:06:37,860 these structures of whatever origin us 168 00:06:41,149 --> 00:06:39,599 in genetic with their rocks on the 169 00:06:42,499 --> 00:06:41,159 short-term things are very altered on 170 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:42,509 the medium-term things are tremendously 171 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:44,610 altered and go back in time three and a 172 00:06:50,119 --> 00:06:47,849 half billion years ago and you find once 173 00:06:52,459 --> 00:06:50,129 again a world that is far removed from 174 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,469 the present so let's suppose we have 175 00:06:55,999 --> 00:06:54,240 something that is putative ly biological 176 00:06:59,450 --> 00:06:56,009 we have something that is certainly as 177 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:59,460 old as we would like it to be ah yes let 178 00:07:02,659 --> 00:07:00,840 me go that's another process of 179 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:02,669 alteration we then need to open the 180 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:04,490 greatest can of worms and that is 181 00:07:09,499 --> 00:07:07,740 biodiversity itself chapter four 182 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:09,509 Sisyphean myths versus Herculean Labor's 183 00:07:14,779 --> 00:07:11,610 or how to reliably extricate a bio 184 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,789 signature from its lithic prison bio 185 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:16,560 signatures can be classified by a 186 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:18,900 tripartite division morphological 187 00:07:22,730 --> 00:07:20,370 signatures are doubtless the most iconic 188 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:22,740 but for every biological morphology and 189 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:25,110 abiotic doppelganger is lying in wait as 190 00:07:30,559 --> 00:07:27,120 you will see I have been very dishonest 191 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:30,569 on this slide there you go so that the 192 00:07:33,829 --> 00:07:32,310 bottom set the bottom section those are 193 00:07:38,619 --> 00:07:33,839 in fact wonderful silica spheres and 194 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:40,969 morphological signatures of all scales I 195 00:07:44,899 --> 00:07:42,960 told you all scales have goodness that 196 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:44,909 oh no there was a problem and Microsoft 197 00:07:51,019 --> 00:07:48,210 PowerPoint has decided to close it 198 00:07:52,219 --> 00:07:51,029 actually crashed my presentation has 199 00:07:57,769 --> 00:07:52,229 more pictures in it than the National 200 00:08:02,989 --> 00:07:57,779 Gallery I'm sorry here I was I I was 201 00:08:04,909 --> 00:08:02,999 here okay so how about these beautiful 202 00:08:07,339 --> 00:08:04,919 microbial mats from the huggin oak well 203 00:08:10,329 --> 00:08:07,349 they're on the right hand side what you 204 00:08:12,939 --> 00:08:10,339 find on the left hand side is basically 205 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:12,949 equivalent structures but which have 206 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:16,439 micron scale peculiarities which tell us 207 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:18,599 that they are in fact abiotic so 208 00:08:27,649 --> 00:08:20,490 morphological signatures on their own 209 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:27,659 not exactly ideal for our bipartite 210 00:08:33,019 --> 00:08:31,020 splitting of biology and a biology 211 00:08:35,329 --> 00:08:33,029 isotopic and metabolic signatures are 212 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,339 becoming ever more useful we have to tie 213 00:08:39,290 --> 00:08:37,440 morphology to geochemistry and 214 00:08:41,149 --> 00:08:39,300 especially promising research direction 215 00:08:45,199 --> 00:08:41,159 seems to be sulfur isotopes although 216 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:45,209 also biomineralization third chemical 217 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:47,580 bio signatures integral or disseminated 218 00:08:51,620 --> 00:08:50,160 organic molecules and biomarkers sadly 219 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:51,630 these are of no use to me because 220 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:52,980 they're not nearly old enough they only 221 00:08:59,210 --> 00:08:54,830 go back to point seven billion years 222 00:09:01,880 --> 00:08:59,220 very young so we come to the approach 223 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:01,890 that I think ensures us a robust 224 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:03,810 biological signature correlative 225 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:05,550 microscopy a single line of 226 00:09:10,730 --> 00:09:07,530 morphological or isotopic evidence is no 227 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:10,740 longer sufficient you want morphology I 228 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:15,690 know deer am I going to crash again no 229 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:18,390 no no okay you want morphology you start 230 00:09:22,970 --> 00:09:21,330 off with petrographic of observations 231 00:09:24,650 --> 00:09:22,980 for example of these chemo trophic 232 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:24,660 colonies suspended in hydrothermal 233 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:26,570 silica you move your way to 234 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:29,970 three-dimensional morphology such as 235 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:32,310 these confocal laser scanning microscopy 236 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:35,100 images of putative microbial structures 237 00:09:40,430 --> 00:09:38,090 you move closer you move to thai 238 00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:40,440 chemistry to your morphology somewhat 239 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:41,880 perhaps you'd like to put your sample 240 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:44,370 into a CT scanner and get something akin 241 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:46,500 to that but that's only morphology 242 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:48,120 perhaps you'd like to include include 243 00:09:52,130 --> 00:09:50,010 some EDS mapping you'd like to include 244 00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:52,140 some pixie analysis you'd like to 245 00:09:56,450 --> 00:09:54,390 include raman studies of the mineralogy 246 00:09:59,680 --> 00:09:56,460 you'd like to include nano sins of 247 00:10:02,120 --> 00:09:59,690 forits isotopic mapping this is 248 00:10:04,190 --> 00:10:02,130 difficult now as you can see we've got 249 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:04,200 so much on the screen we can hardly see 250 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:05,930 the wood for the trees 251 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:08,670 what's important is choosing the 252 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:12,810 appropriate combination of techniques 253 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:15,890 for your bio signature of interest 254 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:20,220 chapter 5 critics versus cynics don't be 255 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:22,530 a cynic the burden of proof on ancient 256 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:24,210 micro fossils and their associated 257 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:27,300 structures is an i interminable load to 258 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:28,560 give you the example of something I 259 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:31,350 worked on the apex chert microbial 260 00:10:35,410 --> 00:10:33,230 structures here points in favor 261 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:35,420 laminated textures which pass multiple 262 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:37,920 morphological criteria for biodiversity 263 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:39,930 a Raman spectra consistent with the 264 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:41,310 syndrome isset II of the structures with 265 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:43,710 their host rock nano Sims showing the 266 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:46,080 co-occurrence of three bio essential 267 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:49,290 elements points against proximity to a 268 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:50,850 hydrothermal vane means that there's an 269 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:52,530 increased chance of these structures 270 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:54,930 stemming from a biogenic lis derived 271 00:11:00,440 --> 00:10:58,050 carbon also a point against I can't find 272 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:00,450 any micro fossils here the architects of 273 00:11:08,089 --> 00:11:01,379 these edifices 274 00:11:09,979 --> 00:11:08,099 nowhere in sight chapter 6 the defeat of 275 00:11:13,549 --> 00:11:09,989 absurdity null hypotheses are 276 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:13,559 biosignatures on trial an assertion of 277 00:11:17,419 --> 00:11:15,660 Archaean or alien biogenesis is 278 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:17,429 worthless and that the simultaneous 279 00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:19,289 rejection of all conceivable null 280 00:11:25,099 --> 00:11:21,809 hypotheses this is the Geo philosophy 281 00:11:27,979 --> 00:11:25,109 part of the presentation it's important 282 00:11:30,109 --> 00:11:27,989 not to reduce your evidence to a 283 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:30,119 reductive stacking of the odds all the 284 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:31,889 best proofs of biodiversity are those 285 00:11:35,989 --> 00:11:34,079 which in the same breath are at once 286 00:11:38,749 --> 00:11:35,999 a demonstration of biology and an 287 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:38,759 appropriate way biogenesis for existence 288 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:41,839 for instance in the apex chert microbial 289 00:11:48,139 --> 00:11:45,289 structures I believe we have proven some 290 00:11:49,849 --> 00:11:48,149 characteristics of a concentration of 291 00:11:52,939 --> 00:11:49,859 organic molecules which means that the 292 00:11:56,409 --> 00:11:52,949 morphological abiotic null hypothesis of 293 00:11:59,299 --> 00:11:56,419 tube pumice cannot possibly be true 294 00:12:00,889 --> 00:11:59,309 chapter 7 I promised you we'd get off 295 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:00,899 the planet at some point and we will 296 00:12:06,049 --> 00:12:04,289 worlds beyond our own so it's my opinion 297 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:06,059 that the earlier Qian provides a 298 00:12:11,179 --> 00:12:08,220 planetary analogue with microbial scale 299 00:12:12,649 --> 00:12:11,189 similarities to the Noah Qian mass we 300 00:12:14,749 --> 00:12:12,659 have numerous complexities to 301 00:12:17,090 --> 00:12:14,759 disentangle and therefore we require a 302 00:12:18,739 --> 00:12:17,100 multi approach technique so many 303 00:12:21,319 --> 00:12:18,749 approaches that you crash PowerPoint 304 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:21,329 multiple times this will doubtless be 305 00:12:24,049 --> 00:12:22,529 more difficult with a limited 306 00:12:26,869 --> 00:12:24,059 instrumentation that we will have on 307 00:12:28,579 --> 00:12:26,879 Mars the range of biomes possible for 308 00:12:31,749 --> 00:12:28,589 fossil life on Mars will be greatly 309 00:12:34,189 --> 00:12:31,759 reduced relative to those on earth 310 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:34,199 coincidentally the remaining biomes on 311 00:12:39,229 --> 00:12:37,350 this diagram are also those which were 312 00:12:41,179 --> 00:12:39,239 dominant on the Archaean earth their 313 00:12:42,889 --> 00:12:41,189 biomes which are controlled by internal 314 00:12:46,239 --> 00:12:42,899 heats and which thus favor the 315 00:12:49,009 --> 00:12:46,249 accumulation of keema trophic biomass 316 00:12:51,189 --> 00:12:49,019 Martian rock record could also give us 317 00:12:53,719 --> 00:12:51,199 more than four billion years of 318 00:12:56,599 --> 00:12:53,729 unspoiled geological delights and this 319 00:12:58,519 --> 00:12:56,609 sequence could be uninterrupted it 320 00:13:00,679 --> 00:12:58,529 should be more pristine than on earth 321 00:13:03,139 --> 00:13:00,689 once we make it into depth and we can 322 00:13:05,029 --> 00:13:03,149 therefore start filling in the gaps of 323 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:05,039 the horribly shattered terrestrial 324 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:09,720 jigsaw understanding of the records of 325 00:13:14,419 --> 00:13:12,049 carbonaceous material is challenging I 326 00:13:15,220 --> 00:13:14,429 think we are currently required to base 327 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:15,230 a lot of our 328 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:17,000 the standing of the Martian geological 329 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:19,010 record in earth centric observations but 330 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:21,710 I'd like to see that reverse upon the 331 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:25,330 return of Martian samples of course a 332 00:13:32,140 --> 00:13:28,970 sample return mission to that end is 333 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:32,150 absolutely necessary we bring it back to 334 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:34,250 earth we build a synchrotron around it 335 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:37,660 and we study the hell out of it 336 00:13:44,950 --> 00:13:41,290 chapter 7 or dentes fortunate I do that 337 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:44,960 the burden of proof associated with 338 00:13:49,090 --> 00:13:46,550 biosignature searches in the early 339 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:49,100 Archaean is monumental but with care and 340 00:13:54,370 --> 00:13:51,730 diligence rewards can be reliable 341 00:13:56,740 --> 00:13:54,380 fortune favors the bold and in our 342 00:14:01,060 --> 00:13:56,750 quests through the solar system we 343 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:01,070 should not and shall not go gently thank 344 00:14:18,060 --> 00:14:02,650 you for your attention 345 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:20,470 ok first off let me say that is quite 346 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,580 possibly one of the most riveting talks 347 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:24,320 I've ever seen at a science conference 348 00:14:29,140 --> 00:14:27,650 um secondly so I study exoplanet 349 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:29,150 biosignatures and I find the idea of 350 00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:30,470 like coming up with the idea by a 351 00:14:35,470 --> 00:14:33,320 signature plus evidence plus community 352 00:14:37,330 --> 00:14:35,480 consensus you can you're a signature so 353 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:37,340 do you think you could that kind of be 354 00:14:40,930 --> 00:14:39,170 generalized to a sort of a general 355 00:14:42,430 --> 00:14:40,940 framework of how do we approach this 356 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:42,440 because we're dealing with a lot of same 357 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:44,030 problems in the exoplanet community as 358 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:46,060 well as oxygen about a signature made 359 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:50,450 maybe maybe not etc etc etc I think it 360 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:52,310 certainly could yes I thought I thought 361 00:14:57,790 --> 00:14:54,950 I thought I think a combination of 362 00:15:00,880 --> 00:14:57,800 evidence and communica munity consensus 363 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:00,890 is certainly what you require to be 364 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:05,650 believed I guess the issue with 365 00:15:12,670 --> 00:15:07,760 exoplanets is that it's more difficult 366 00:15:20,110 --> 00:15:12,680 to accrue great amounts of evidence so 367 00:15:21,390 --> 00:15:20,120 community consensus on pivotal slices of 368 00:15:34,190 --> 00:15:21,400 that evidence 369 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:38,000 so on the slide where you had the side 370 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:39,630 of the slide that crashed PowerPoint 371 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:41,970 with all the different methods of 372 00:15:50,180 --> 00:15:46,910 finding BIOS integration has any type of 373 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:50,190 step wise procedure or I don't know 374 00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:51,810 almost like a dichotomous key of let's 375 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:53,160 do this test and if you get a good 376 00:15:57,439 --> 00:15:55,050 result go to this test is anything like 377 00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:57,449 that under development broadly you start 378 00:16:00,920 --> 00:15:59,519 off with your least destructive method 379 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:00,930 and you work your way to your most 380 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:10,460 yes action actually with the exception 381 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:13,410 of reversing Raman and pixie that is the 382 00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:15,540 order I would do it in it's always 383 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:17,190 important to start off with the thin 384 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:23,510 section microscopy because that is the 385 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:27,480 scale of observation which is most most 386 00:16:32,889 --> 00:16:30,240 most meaningful to the resolution of the 387 00:16:41,449 --> 00:16:36,710 however it's no longer enough but for 388 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:41,459 your studies in it involving Sims and 389 00:16:47,470 --> 00:16:43,470 pixie and one that I haven't put up that 390 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:47,480 a TEM you'll you will find that 391 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:49,890 destruction means that has to be at the 392 00:16:58,940 --> 00:16:52,890 end of your chain yes always start with 393 00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:00,590 do you think there's a fundamental 394 00:17:05,030 --> 00:17:02,820 problem comparing early Mars earlier 395 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:05,040 since a Mars would have been much much 396 00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:06,959 colder back then because there you have 397 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:10,199 the faint young Sun problem the paradox 398 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:12,089 that people view as a problem for early 399 00:17:17,299 --> 00:17:14,370 Earth it seems to be exacerbated if you 400 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,309 look at early Mars it's true 401 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:19,679 although the faint young Sun is only a 402 00:17:27,409 --> 00:17:24,569 problem for phototrophic life the the 403 00:17:30,169 --> 00:17:27,419 sorts of biomes I study on the early 404 00:17:34,909 --> 00:17:30,179 Earth are those which take their energy 405 00:17:36,530 --> 00:17:34,919 from the interior of the planet so the 406 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:36,540 faint young Sun could probably be a 407 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:38,370 problem right of the surface but that 408 00:17:44,419 --> 00:17:40,710 depends upon the complexity you want for 409 00:17:46,659 --> 00:17:44,429 your ecosystem in terms of the 410 00:17:50,060 --> 00:17:46,669 comparison between keema trophic 411 00:17:55,490 --> 00:17:50,070 biomasses and kamatovic ecosystems 412 00:18:02,240 --> 00:17:55,500 I think localized conditions are much 413 00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:02,250 more important thank you thank you very